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#1 2012-02-26 17:50:16

Maggiesdad
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EO feed conversions

This was cut from an earlier post, so I'm starting a new topic for it.

(Jan. 23,2012) My oldest daughter and I put new bands on my Round One chooks (10wks) today, we also banded the Round Two chicks (6.5wks) for the first time. We weighed all 23 birds, and took photos of them for the record. I haven't had time to process, file and post everything yet - but it was an interesting milestone for us because we've burned up 100lb of chick starter plus the two 5lb bags of medicated we started each batch on.

So for 110lb of chick starter, we have  48.5lbs of bird in the feather.  That doesn't seem too shabby so far.

R.1. - 11 birds - 10wks - 30.75lb tot.
R.2. - 12 birds - 6.5wks - 17.8lb tot.



Now For the update

Maggie and I weighed again today, the chooks have gone through their second 100lb of feed. That was a 50lb sack of Dumor 24% chick starter cut one for one with a 50lb sack of SS 16% grower crumbles.

The stats:

Round One  10 birds - 15 wks - 41.31lb  (2lb 4oz pullet fell to hawk several wks ago)
Round Two  12 birds - 11.5 wks - 34.37lb total

Grand total 80.68lb birds in the feather at 210lbs of feed.

Round one individuals:

Roos :   Red  -  5lb 8oz
             Black - 5lb 2oz
             Blue -  5lb 0oz
             Purp - 4lb 5oz

Pullets :   Brown - 3lb 12oz
               Orange - 3lb 12oz
               Yellow  - 3lb 12oz
               Blue 2  - 3lb 10oz
               Green  -  3lb 4oz
               Blue 3   -  3lb 4oz

Similar spreads in Round Two, I'll post them if you want to see them.

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#2 2012-02-26 19:55:52

Lisa
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Re: EO feed conversions

MD,

Your record keeping ROCKS! =D


When all else fails, go spend time with your chickens. :)

Pens are currently filled with Red Cuckoo (Marraduna) and Red Basque (Gorria) breeders, Spitz, and Seramas.

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#3 2012-02-27 01:20:26

skeffling lavender farm
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Re: EO feed conversions

That's good, it's great to see these measurements.  So how many weeks old are they are those weights then?

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#4 2012-02-27 03:39:22

Maggiesdad
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Re: EO feed conversions

15 and 11.5 wks

Looks like all of my boys will be in the 5lb range at 16 weeks.  They feel awfully bony and sharp to me though, maybe they have room to hang some more meat on? It will be interesting to see what you all think of them.

The girls certainly are getting peckish, too. Their feathering is beautiful, but nothing shaking with the combs yet...

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#5 2012-02-27 12:34:50

skeffling lavender farm
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Re: EO feed conversions

That's not too bad at all.  It seems each week they "thicken up" more. 

Based on what we have seen with EOs and other breeds sizes here, we seem to get 4-5lb  roos dressed (or extremely undressed :funny:) in most breeds at 22-24 weeks. Though the black pennies, they are that size at more like 16-18 weeks.   

The EOs get tall, there's definitely a tall skinny phase and I think about a month after that they'd be prime, because they shoot up then widen, and you look at them one day and realise the boys look just like proper roosters, not gangly youths.  Thinking back to the fall it was around 19-20 weeks, though the longer you leave them, the bigger they will get as there is another major widening that seem to happen around 8 months, then another after the following winter too.  When you realize not only is that a proper roo, he's a really big solid one too!

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#6 2012-02-27 14:59:59

Susan
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Re: EO feed conversions

MD I'll post my findings here, but if you prefer I can move it to a separate topic, just thought it would be interesting to compare. I didn't keep track of feed (I have 8 coops), so I'll just post the weights of the 7 hatched by my broody EO Momma. I got 2 cockerals and 5 hens. I weighed them at just shy of 11 weeks.
Cockeral 1:  2.11 lbs
Cockeral 2:  2.9
Pullet 1: 2.2
Pullet 2: 2.5
Pullet 3: 2.2
Pullet 4: 2.4
Pullet 5: 1.14

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#7 2012-02-28 02:20:30

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Re: EO feed conversions

Lisa wrote:

MD,

Your record keeping ROCKS! =D

x2 :thumbs:

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#8 2012-02-28 12:45:35

poplar girl
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Re: EO feed conversions

Susan wrote:

MD I'll post my findings here, but if you prefer I can move it to a separate topic, just thought it would be interesting to compare. I didn't keep track of feed (I have 8 coops), so I'll just post the weights of the 7 hatched by my broody EO Momma. I got 2 cockerals and 5 hens. I weighed them at just shy of 11 weeks.
Cockeral 1:  2.11 lbs
Cockeral 2:  2.9
Pullet 1: 2.2
Pullet 2: 2.5
Pullet 3: 2.2
Pullet 4: 2.4
Pullet 5: 1.14

Looking back at MDs just shy of 12 week update on his first hatch, the weight range was 4lbs 4oz to 2 lbs 3oz.

So even with a week yet to grow I think your babies are smaller. Could be lots of environmental reasons in addition to genetic ones though.

I definately need to weigh some babies this year not just go by sight and feel. Feed conversion might be hard to keep track of but weight at a few specific ages should be manageable.

Thanks for posting MD!


Raising red cuckoo (marraduna) Euskal Oiloak and self blue (lavender) & black Belgian Bearded d'Uccles.

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#9 2012-02-28 12:49:33

Susan
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Re: EO feed conversions

That's quite a difference!

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#10 2012-02-28 13:57:04

Amblecroft
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Re: EO feed conversions

Great posts and fabulous records keeping.  Wow!


Susan Buttivant at Amblecroft,
Chaparral Pyrenean Shepherds and Petits Bassets
http://www3.sympatico.ca/chaparral/amblecroft.html

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#11 2012-02-28 14:58:59

Maggiesdad
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Re: EO feed conversions

Here are the Round Two weights from last weekend (2/25) These guys hatched Dec 8th- 9th- 10th

Roos

1 - 3lb 8oz
2 - 3lb 4oz
3 - 3lb 4oz
4 - 3lb 4oz
5 - 3lb 0oz
6 - 2lb 14oz
7 - 2lb 12oz

Pullets

8 - 2lb 10oz
9 - 2lb 9oz
10 - 2lb 8oz
11 - 2lb 7oz
12 - 2lb 6oz

I figured I 'd better get this up to avoid confusion, I said the spreads were similar, not the weights. As far a environmental factors, these guys (both batches) were able to utilize the illumination from the heat lamp to be able to feed at all hours (they were initially on 24%protein). They both had heatlamps for 10 weeks then I took it away.  They've been outside with nightly lows in the low twenties (F) avg 2-3x per week... no ill effects.

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#12 2012-02-28 15:00:26

Maggiesdad
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Re: EO feed conversions

I don't need 11 roos... I foresee chicken and dumplings in my future! :eat:

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#13 2012-02-28 15:31:57

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Re: EO feed conversions

Thanks funny of the two hatches I did last year I got 11 roosters too.  I kept the best two and gave away the rest.  Unfortunately I do not have anyone very close that processes chickens anymore and I haven't the nerve to do it myself. :nervous:
Look forward to having a look at them on Sat.   Four more sleeps :thumbsup:

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#14 2012-02-28 18:44:53

skeffling lavender farm
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Re: EO feed conversions

MD's chooks are on high protein though right?  It's kind of neat to see they do bulk up with higher protein, that's significant in itself.  I can't wait to see them in person too! Can't believe it's only 4 days! :roadtrip::jumping:

It would depend on exercise, climate, and size of scratch rations too.  If they are in  a cold environment that is not heated they will burn through more feed and use most of it to keep warm rather than put on weight.  Ours hammer it on cold days just staying warm. That's why we insulated the layer coop and started using the big barn so save on feed.  then we uses the wide open downstairs for most of them :duh:

I mean think about it, those Spanish stats/weights may apply to a different climate, not that we want to settle for smaller chooks up here!  I think I'll have to get a scale ordered and do Monika trick for easy weighing them.  I think our fish scale we used for turkeys is still packed.

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#15 2012-02-28 21:11:27

Maggiesdad
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Re: EO feed conversions

Hey...  somebody get the door - CountryFriedChicken is trying to get in! :hi:

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#16 2012-02-29 01:59:40

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Re: EO feed conversions

Got it.  Sorry it's been a busy day.  I think I just emailed them to let them know!  So tired, I may have messed it up! :whistle:

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#17 2012-03-23 18:20:44

Maggiesdad
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Re: EO feed conversions

Cut from Monika's thread, where I posted last night...

Tonight's Round One roo weights at 18.5 weeks. The third 100lbs of feed was a 50/50 blend of 16% and 20%. Now we're rolling into 16% layer pellets. The girls combs and wattles have reddened up nicely over the past week...


Blue - 5lb 12oz

Black - 5lb 6oz

Red - 6lb 4oz

Purple - 5lb 8oz.

Black is dominant, crows night and day, nice and sweet, nobody else crowing.  Black is also pointing out food now,and struts the fence w hackles up ready to fight anything. Hope this is just a phase, 'cause I really like the way he looks...
Red still has the strange knock kneed gait, can't see using him.


So, At 18.5 wks and 15 wks, for Round One and Round Two  respectively, I have 98lbs of chicken in the feather after 310lb of feed.

22 birds total. They've both been fed from the same bags, but the 310lb is what the EOs have consumed.

Monika you asked about supplements, they've had cabbage, kale, brussels sprouts and screened alfalfa (the swept up shatters) offered as daily treats. No more than would take them 5 - 6 minutes to clean up. Since the lawns started growing again (about the last two weeks), they get 2 gallons of clover and grass clippings to play in each afternoon. Plus an hour of forage time out of the pens when I can swing it.

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#18 2012-03-23 18:24:46

Maggiesdad
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Re: EO feed conversions

And a measuring cupful of two grain scratch once a day per 10 or 12 birds...

They'll tell you they are hungry, but they are pretty well fed! :whistle:

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#19 2012-03-23 23:05:01

skeffling lavender farm
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They are in great hands!  They were lovely hefty little birds to pick up. :love:

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#20 2012-03-24 01:57:13

poplar girl
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Re: EO feed conversions

Those are amazing weights! Those must be the happiest best cared for chooks ever.


Raising red cuckoo (marraduna) Euskal Oiloak and self blue (lavender) & black Belgian Bearded d'Uccles.

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#21 2012-03-24 03:58:30

Maggiesdad
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Re: EO feed conversions

LOL   I'm just feedin' what James' been breedin'!

It will be fun to see where we are in 3-4 years...  :EO:

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#22 2012-03-24 04:01:21

Island Girl
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Re: EO feed conversions

Thank you Maggiesdad for taking the time to post this info. Your record keeping truly inspires me. I will have to try to weigh my younger ones too. They are 16 weeks old so again it will be interesting to compare the weights to your 15 week old weight records. Busy weekend ahead but I will read this all more slowly when time allows. :goodthread:

XOX Monika

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