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#1 2011-08-29 17:37:15

ipf
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From: Salt Spring Island, BC, Canada
Registered: 2011-08-29
Posts: 168

Hello from Saltspring

I'm a fraud, really; I don't actually know what a Euskal Oiloa looks like (but promise to find out). I was asked to join so I could take part in genetics discussions, and flattery is almost always effective, so here I am.

I have a PhD in genetics, and have worked as a geneticist for ~25 years. Although my academic specialty is not poultry, DNA is DNA, and you'd be amazed at how much of it we all (chickens, trees, people, cockroaches) have in common. The principles of genetics are broadly applicable, with slight wrinkes for different organisms.

I'll happily participate in genetics chats, and share what I know. I always enjoy a good (polite) argument.

I don't know very much about feather colour and pattern inheritance. I'm pretty good on genetics of disease resistance, egg colour, and the generalities of inheritance: dominant/recessive traits, multi-gene traits, modifying genes, heritability, genotype x environment interaction, inbreeding. . . etc.

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#2 2011-08-29 18:01:34

gubi
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From: Walton
Registered: 2011-06-30
Posts: 1344
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Re: Hello from Saltspring

Welcome ipf
:EO:
here's my Marraduna Euskal Oiloa rooster, he has white legs but the EO's are supposed to have yellow legs.  http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/198756_10150249769541227_556756226_8062381_870828_n.jpg
3 of my pullets
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/269627_10150234969091227_556756226_7904672_161423_n.jpg
Here's what we want them to look like!
http://www.euskalroots.eu/galeria/gallery.html


Herd of Brown Swiss, a few sheep, red cuckoo basque, Silverspangled Appenzeller Spitzhauben, ameraucanas(EE), Welsummer, broodie silkies and a few more heritage hens

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#3 2011-08-29 18:30:32

JaerhonChanteclerEuskies
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From: Saskatoon, Sask, Canada
Registered: 2011-06-30
Posts: 154

Re: Hello from Saltspring

:welcome:


Mainly raising Norwegian  Jaerhorn’s, Partridge  Chantecler’s, White Chantecler’s,  Euskal Oiloas, Ameraucana’s, Wheaten Maran’s, Barred Rock Cochin’s, White Silkie’s , Saxony Ducks, Rouen Clair ducks, Australian Spotted Ducks Lavender Guinea Fowl, Welsh Mountain Sheep, Cashmere Goats and Texas Longhorn Cattle.

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#4 2011-08-29 19:19:55

Flat Rock Farm
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From: Branchton, Ontario Canada
Registered: 2011-07-03
Posts: 3359

Re: Hello from Saltspring

:welcome:   We are pleased you could join the site and look forward to any discussion you may have regarding the "genetics " of these beautiful, friendly birds.  :thumbs:

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#5 2011-08-29 21:11:28

Susan
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From: Saskatoon, Sask, Canada
Registered: 2011-06-28
Posts: 2540

Re: Hello from Saltspring

Wohoo :happycrowd". Thanks for joining ipf!! It will be awesome to have your input!  I know I'm daunted by this task having only done a bit of genetics at the undergrad level- your knowledge will be so appreciated!

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#6 2011-08-30 00:14:24

poplar girl
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From: Athabasca, AB, Canada
Registered: 2011-06-30
Posts: 3159

Re: Hello from Saltspring

:welcome: ipf! We are very excited that you accepted Island Girl's invitation to share some of your knowledge with us! Maybe there is an EO or two in your future, for the sake of research =D


Raising red cuckoo (marraduna) Euskal Oiloak and self blue (lavender) & black Belgian Bearded d'Uccles.

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#7 2011-08-30 00:23:29

ipf
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From: Salt Spring Island, BC, Canada
Registered: 2011-08-29
Posts: 168

Re: Hello from Saltspring

They are beautiful birds, I agree!

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#8 2011-08-30 00:44:07

gubi
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From: Walton
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Re: Hello from Saltspring

and very good layers of large brown eggs and the cockerels grow fast and taste delicious! :whistle:


Herd of Brown Swiss, a few sheep, red cuckoo basque, Silverspangled Appenzeller Spitzhauben, ameraucanas(EE), Welsummer, broodie silkies and a few more heritage hens

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#9 2011-08-30 02:04:10

Lisa
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From: near Arthur, Ontario, Canada
Registered: 2011-07-05
Posts: 649

Re: Hello from Saltspring

:welcome: :welcome: ipf!! Glad you could join us!!

Last edited by Lisa (2011-08-30 02:04:38)


When all else fails, go spend time with your chickens. :)

Pens are currently filled with Red Cuckoo (Marraduna) and Red Basque (Gorria) breeders, Spitz, and Seramas.

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#10 2011-08-30 03:32:06

Island Girl
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From: Qualicum Beach, Vancouver Isla
Registered: 2011-07-06
Posts: 1403

Re: Hello from Saltspring

Hi ipf, very glad to see you here! You will find many friendly people and a lot of interesting stuff!

XOX Monika

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#11 2011-08-30 22:46:03

3riverschick
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From: Ligonier, in Pennsylvania, USA
Registered: 2011-08-11
Posts: 64
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Re: Hello from Saltspring

Hi idf,
I have been collecting genetic references and articles on  Euskal Oiloa.
Biliographic datbases are what I do and I really enjoy it. If They're listed at the bottom of the EO forum info tree below.

Index » Helpful Euskal Oiloa links » URL's to genetics lit probably useful in breeding EO's.
( Posted by 3riverschick, that's me)

I've decided to concentrate on the Liodiana color variety. It's an eWh ( Wheaton based on the e locus)  barred, buff columbian which according to my research(not sure yet I am completely correct) doesn't have the Mahogany gene or any black in hackle, tail, or wings. The barring is caused by the barring gene, not autosomal barring.
Considered extinct for some time, they were resurrected and displayed for the 1st time in quite a while at this year's Basque fair in Spain. Campo and Orozco did a lot of research work and experimenting on the Spanish breeds. Campo states the color the Basque call Llodiana is a very rare one and compares the llodiana to the USA's Gold Barred Rock. I believe that's a variety of the Plymouth Rock. Pennett and Pease wrote a paper on the GBR in 1928. because llodiana appears not to have Mh or Black in it (I think) I believe it will be valuable in refining the other colors because it can be a base to which other colors can be added to create Gorria, Marraduna or Gorria-based Naked Necks.
Best Regards,
Karen , western PA                       :EO:

Last edited by 3riverschick (2011-08-30 22:48:23)


Karen Tewart
"The present is best served when we remember the past."

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#12 2011-08-31 00:45:29

skeffling lavender farm
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From: Wiarton, ON, Canada
Registered: 2011-06-17
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Re: Hello from Saltspring

:welcome: IPF, so great to see you on our crazy and enthusiastic little site! :thumbs:  I certainly hope the genetics and all other discussions remain polite!  We are a pretty laid back group here, with someone laid back "in charge" :Crazy: and am so glad you decided to join us!   :applause:

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#13 2011-08-31 02:29:38

Skylinepoultry
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From: Old Fort, Tennessee
Registered: 2011-06-30
Posts: 222
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Re: Hello from Saltspring

Big Welcome IPF !  Glad you could join us. Do you have chcikens as well? Sorry if I missed anything about u saying if u did or not.

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#14 2011-08-31 02:32:08

Skylinepoultry
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From: Old Fort, Tennessee
Registered: 2011-06-30
Posts: 222
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Re: Hello from Saltspring

gubi wrote:

Welcome ipf
:EO:
here's my Marraduna Euskal Oiloa rooster, he has white legs but the EO's are supposed to have yellow legs.  http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos- … 0828_n.jpg
3 of my pullets
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos- … 1423_n.jpg
Here's what we want them to look like!
http://www.euskalroots.eu/galeria/gallery.html

Nice roo Gubi!

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#15 2011-08-31 03:15:44

ipf
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From: Salt Spring Island, BC, Canada
Registered: 2011-08-29
Posts: 168

Re: Hello from Saltspring

Well, I can now report that I know what an Euskal Oiloa looks like, and have learned quite a bit about the breed. As someone suggested, I think I should get a couple (for research purposes, of course). Yes, I have chickens, lots of chickens. Too many chickens. Or is that an oxymoron?

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#16 2011-08-31 05:31:31

Island Girl
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From: Qualicum Beach, Vancouver Isla
Registered: 2011-07-06
Posts: 1403

Re: Hello from Saltspring

ipf mine will be hatching on the 14th and I would be more than happy to donate some your way 'for research' of course! =D

XOX Monika

ps no such thing as too many chickens :oops:

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#17 2011-08-31 11:20:48

poplar girl
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From: Athabasca, AB, Canada
Registered: 2011-06-30
Posts: 3159

Re: Hello from Saltspring

Enablers R Us ipf!


Raising red cuckoo (marraduna) Euskal Oiloak and self blue (lavender) & black Belgian Bearded d'Uccles.

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#18 2011-08-31 17:33:15

3riverschick
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From: Ligonier, in Pennsylvania, USA
Registered: 2011-08-11
Posts: 64
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Re: Hello from Saltspring

poplar girl wrote:

Enablers R Us ipf!

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Ha, ha, ha,  :applause:  ho, ho,  :cheer:  hee, hee!  :thumbsup:  I LOVE this breed! :jumping:
Karen


Karen Tewart
"The present is best served when we remember the past."

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#19 2011-08-31 19:18:00

ipf
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From: Salt Spring Island, BC, Canada
Registered: 2011-08-29
Posts: 168

Re: Hello from Saltspring

That is too kind of you, Monika! I'd definitely like to come and look at your birds sometime, if you allow visitors.

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#20 2011-08-31 23:10:28

Island Girl
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From: Qualicum Beach, Vancouver Isla
Registered: 2011-07-06
Posts: 1403

Re: Hello from Saltspring

ipf I would love to meet you and show you my birds and I definitely allow visitors! I plan to come out to Saltspring Island with debbiej from this site and take in a Saturday market soon. I need some more of that wonderful Saltspring garlic to plant in October. This year I won't wait until its all sold out! Maybe we could meet up for coffee =D

XOX Monika

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#21 2011-09-02 15:07:10

ipf
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From: Salt Spring Island, BC, Canada
Registered: 2011-08-29
Posts: 168

Re: Hello from Saltspring

Monika - When were you planning to visit SSI?

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#22 2011-09-02 15:49:24

Island Girl
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From: Qualicum Beach, Vancouver Isla
Registered: 2011-07-06
Posts: 1403

Re: Hello from Saltspring

Debbie and I have decided on Sept 24th. A girls day out =D I have only been to SSI once so I am excited to see it again. The chicks will have hatched by then so I will post pictures of them and you can decide which ones and how many you would like. Lets pray for a good hatch.  For now I am interested in them for their reputation of being so friendly and their beautiful eggs everyone is talking about and that the roos are :eat: . I am excited to read the threads that say they are very good producers of awesome eggs. Long story short ... I don't care if they have white legs etc for now. If EO's are as awesome as I think they will be they may end up being my main bird and then I will be more interested in a breeding program for them (down the road). So if you want some and may breed them then I think you should take some with yellow legs and anything else that you can tell from chick age that might make them a good breeder.  Hmmm my short story ended up long anyhow, lol!

XOX Monika

ps, If there is anything you need from here I would be happy to bring it along for you!

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#23 2011-09-03 00:30:34

Susan
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From: Saskatoon, Sask, Canada
Registered: 2011-06-28
Posts: 2540

Re: Hello from Saltspring

I am loving how everyone here is so helpful and willing to share. What a great bunch of people!!

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