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#26 2012-04-14 17:35:13

Susan
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Re: So about those darn mites!!

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#27 2012-04-14 17:47:12

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Re: So about those darn mites!!

So are they the brownish colored (pepper-ish) mites Susan or are they lice (grain of rice-ish)? I thought mites are only brownish or red. These bugs confuse the heck out of me. I am going to do just as you said and burn my roosts and replace them too. Good thing the pour on takes care of both, I just keep on treating the boys, 1 of my roos has them again! We need a bug smiley, preferably one getting splattered with a shotgun! It hasn't been warm/dry enough here for me to feel comfy cleaning out the whole coop and spraying etc but I think I'd better. :rain:

XOX Monika

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#28 2012-04-14 18:30:41

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Re: So about those darn mites!!

Here is some more lovely news about how they also parasitize humans: http://birdmites.org/mites.html

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#29 2012-04-14 18:47:40

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Re: So about those darn mites!!

Here is a more organic approach maybe for maintainance  http://ps.fass.org/content/79/11/1575.full.pdf

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#30 2012-04-14 18:48:19

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Re: So about those darn mites!!

Susan, I'm getting itchy!


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#31 2012-04-14 18:50:21

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Re: So about those darn mites!!

Monika, I am seeing white fast moving critters. They are probably the adults as apparently the young don't move as fast until they mount into the adult phase with an extra pair of very strong front legs.

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#32 2012-04-14 19:59:52

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Re: So about those darn mites!!

gubi wrote:

Susan, I'm getting itchy!

OH ME2  :sick:

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#33 2012-04-14 20:33:25

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Re: So about those darn mites!!

Sorry guys, me too! I wonder if I am seeing baby lice instead? More reading to do.

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#34 2012-04-14 22:12:20

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Re: So about those darn mites!!

Susan wrote:

Sorry guys, me too! I wonder if I am seeing baby lice instead? More reading to do.

Baby lice, thats what I was thinking. :stomp: I do not like creepy crawlies!!

XOX Monika

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#35 2012-04-14 22:41:59

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Re: So about those darn mites!!

But that would be such a relief. They don't look like the mites that were crawling out of the swallow's nest last year. I also am not seeing any of the greasy spots they talk about on the feathers. Apollo is getting really annoyed with me today, poor guy. I keep picking him up and parting his feathers to look. Thank goodness he is easy to work with though!

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#36 2012-04-14 23:51:24

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Re: So about those darn mites!!

Island Girl wrote:

So are they the brownish colored (pepper-ish) mites Susan or are they lice (grain of rice-ish)? I thought mites are only brownish or red. These bugs confuse the heck out of me. I am going to do just as you said and burn my roosts and replace them too. Good thing the pour on takes care of both, I just keep on treating the boys, 1 of my roos has them again! We need a bug smiley, preferably one getting splattered with a shotgun! It hasn't been warm/dry enough here for me to feel comfy cleaning out the whole coop and spraying etc but I think I'd better. :rain:

XOX Monika

Well my dear, (what no evil grin)  I can help you out with that, I got a big shotgun  =D

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#37 2012-04-21 17:52:28

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Re: So about those darn mites!!

Well my mite infestation continues. I have treated weekly with Eprinex and it is NOT working. I also have a No Pest Stripe in the coop and I can't say if it is helpful in killing mites not on the chickens but it is NOT effective for the mites on the chooks.

What does seem to be working to kill mites on the birds is Dri-Kill powder which has the active ingredients rotenone and sulfur. I think within 24 hours of powdering their butts it kills the mites crawling around, not sure about the eggs. I just powdered everyone so we'll see. I will monitor very closely as I need to break the egg laying cycle and they can apparently complete a life cycle in as few as 4 days under optimum conditions.

I have been thoroughly cleaning the coop out weekly and spreading DE mixed with wood ashes and fine sand on the floor, nest boxes, and roosts and sweeping it into the cracks.

Seriously these mites SUCK! I believe they are northern fowl mites as they are on the birds all the time, I can't find any mites off the birds under roosts or in cracks and I think our climate is too cold for the red mite.


Raising red cuckoo (marraduna) Euskal Oiloak and self blue (lavender) & black Belgian Bearded d'Uccles.

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#38 2012-04-21 18:32:16

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Re: So about those darn mites!!

PG I just picked up some of the zodiak stuff Monika was talking about. It is supposed to be effective for 7 days. Have you thought of switching to ivermectin? I have found it amazing for lice.

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#39 2012-04-21 18:43:43

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Re: So about those darn mites!!

Eprinex worked well on the lice Last fall so I am worried on the mites Ivemectin might not work either.

I am going into town this afternoon to see what I can find. I need to be careful not to use too many insecticides on the poor chooks at once so will need to wait before trying anything else, still I want to be ready with a new weapon if needed.


Raising red cuckoo (marraduna) Euskal Oiloak and self blue (lavender) & black Belgian Bearded d'Uccles.

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#40 2012-04-21 18:54:26

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Re: So about those darn mites!!

be careful with rotenone - there is a documented (researched) link with Parkinson's. Particularly, don't let your kids near it.
Weird that Eprinex isn't working - how much did you apply, and how? It does take a few days, as each mite needs to feed before it dies, so newly hatched mites will live for a while.

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#41 2012-04-21 21:57:13

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Re: So about those darn mites!!

No kids around but I will be careful. I really hate the powders, would prefer to use something (almost anything) else!

I applied about 0.6 ml of Eprinex to the skin of the hackle on the large fowl, about 0.3 ml to the bantams. I waited and inspected daily for about 5 days and mite numbers just increased and seemed to be of all stages and some were clearly full of blood and still going strong.


Raising red cuckoo (marraduna) Euskal Oiloak and self blue (lavender) & black Belgian Bearded d'Uccles.

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#42 2012-04-21 23:11:04

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Re: So about those darn mites!!

I mix Lice and Mite Powder in with the Diomactios (sp) Earth
and the chickens dust bath in it I also dust them in it (wear a Mask when you do)
so far Knock on wood it works
I also do all new Birds that come here and keep them in quarantine until I have dusted them 2 times.
also the coop gets dusted every couple months
I know it seems like over kill but it seems to be doing okay

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#43 2012-04-21 23:17:20

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Re: So about those darn mites!!

PG
I wanted to say that The dust powder I use is for Northern Fowl Mite ,Chicken mite, lice and fleas
it contains 5% w/w Carbaryl
We get it at Peavey Mart it cost $12.99 for a 1KG can
if you can get it try it on a few and see if it works for you  Forgot to add the name it is just called Dusting Powder it is a tall white can with red and black pics of animals
Joe

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#44 2012-04-22 01:37:56

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Re: So about those darn mites!!

Thanks appway, I am working in getting some of the carbaryl powder and also some Frontline. My options locally are limited but I want to have some different products on hand so I can rotate products with different active ingredients especially if what I am trying now doesn't work!  For now though I am waiting and watching.


Raising red cuckoo (marraduna) Euskal Oiloak and self blue (lavender) & black Belgian Bearded d'Uccles.

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#45 2012-04-22 02:50:05

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Re: So about those darn mites!!

appway wrote:

PG
I wanted to say that The dust powder I use is for Northern Fowl Mite ,Chicken mite, lice and fleas
it contains 5% w/w Carbaryl
We get it at Peavey Mart it cost $12.99 for a 1KG can
if you can get it try it on a few and see if it works for you  Forgot to add the name it is just called Dusting Powder it is a tall white can with red and black pics of animals
Joe

That's what we use too and the "no pest" strips.  I've never ivermectined mine.

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#46 2012-04-22 16:49:15

poplar girl
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Re: So about those darn mites!!

Well good news, Dri-Kill powder does kill these mites. I inspected several of the ones that had mites the worst yesterday and I can't find any crawling this morning. I will be checking daily for any mites and plan to retreat at the first sign of any or next weekend, whichever comes first. The coop will also get a thorough cleaning again next weekend.


Raising red cuckoo (marraduna) Euskal Oiloak and self blue (lavender) & black Belgian Bearded d'Uccles.

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#47 2012-04-22 17:24:47

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Re: So about those darn mites!!

good news
I would also try the kind that I and Clair use
and maybe switch off
Just a idea

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#48 2012-04-22 18:56:06

poplar girl
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Re: So about those darn mites!!

I will appway, your suggestion is exactly what I was thinking of doing. But no luck getting any carbaryl powder in town yesterday so I need to find some first.


Raising red cuckoo (marraduna) Euskal Oiloak and self blue (lavender) & black Belgian Bearded d'Uccles.

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#49 2012-04-22 19:25:06

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Re: So about those darn mites!!

I wonder if it can be mailed I have a extra can of it??
or will they bust us LOL as it does say for vet use only
If I cant mail it I am sure I can figure some way to get it there

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#50 2012-04-22 21:56:34

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Re: So about those darn mites!!

What is the "earth" stuff that one can sprinkle around.  I forget the name of it but I've heard it is good.  (Seniors moment--I even have some of the "earth"stuff!)''

Appway--you answered my question as I read through all the posts.  THanks.

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