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#1 2012-03-04 17:29:22

Susan
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Pictures of EOs from Orozco's Book

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad24/Susan7935/9c9ce4d6.jpg




http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad24/Susan7935/baecff8e.jpg




http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad24/Susan7935/479c0b73.jpg

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#2 2012-03-04 17:46:35

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Re: Pictures of EOs from Orozco's Book

here is a roo Orozco compares to the roo in the first pic I just posted


http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad24/Susan7935/a80a7901.jpg

I believe he is saying this one is homozygous for the barring gene(B) and heterozygous for (red???)






Where as the other boy, is heterozygous for the barring gene (B) and his color is more pronounced because he is homozygous for (red???). The hen beside him does not show as extensive barring as the male. note the white in his tail:

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad24/Susan7935/80e87388.jpg

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#3 2012-03-04 18:01:29

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Re: Pictures of EOs from Orozco's Book

And is that barring or the effects of mo in the hen above? I didn't think that much white was ideal in the hens

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#4 2012-03-04 18:44:09

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Re: Pictures of EOs from Orozco's Book

I'm sooo jealous!  :thanks:  More! :please:

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#5 2012-03-04 18:53:20

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Re: Pictures of EOs from Orozco's Book

Don't be jealous MD, I'll share! :) I'm going to try to figure out the best way to copy the book cover to cover and see how to get it translated. :)

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#6 2012-03-04 19:05:42

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Re: Pictures of EOs from Orozco's Book

That would be most splendid! I can only imagine Orozco would be pleased with the preservation efforts of this group...  :EO:


That placard needs a 'k' in it! :P

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#7 2012-03-04 20:03:17

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Re: Pictures of EOs from Orozco's Book

Wow!  What an awesome find! :thumbsup:

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#8 2012-03-05 03:31:06

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Re: Pictures of EOs from Orozco's Book

Wow, love it!

XOX Monika

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#9 2012-03-06 03:00:39

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Re: Pictures of EOs from Orozco's Book

:thumbs: That is amazing Susan, just imagine that book falling into your hands!  I am so glad you had such a lovely visit too!    How many pages are there on the EOs?

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#10 2012-03-06 03:17:53

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Re: Pictures of EOs from Orozco's Book

Susan what is the title of Orozeo's book? I would like to see if I can find a copy for the folks at this end of the country.


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#11 2012-03-06 12:15:08

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Re: Pictures of EOs from Orozco's Book

Is it in Spanish or Basque?  Looks more like Spanish.

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#12 2012-03-06 12:56:46

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Re: Pictures of EOs from Orozco's Book

Its in Spanish thankfully! There are about 18 pages on the EOs I believe. The book has 216 pages and covers all the Spanish breeds. I check the title when I head inside.

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#13 2012-03-06 14:07:24

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Re: Pictures of EOs from Orozco's Book

front cover:

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad24/Susan7935/ff34746d.jpg



Back cover:


http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad24/Susan7935/c36374c5.jpg


Close up of back cover:

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad24/Susan7935/0baa9b81.jpg

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#14 2012-03-06 14:32:36

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Re: Pictures of EOs from Orozco's Book

ISBN: 84-7114-271-6 ( Ed. Mundi-Prensa),  ISBN : 84-341-0663-9 (Ed. Extension)
NIPO: 253-88-031-5

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#15 2012-03-06 14:52:34

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Re: Pictures of EOs from Orozco's Book

Not sure if this thread discusses some of the book because I haven't translated it yet, but thought this it might be useful to check it out

http://forums.euskaloiloas.com/viewtopic.php?id=468

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#16 2012-08-10 22:35:04

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Re: Pictures of EOs from Orozco's Book

Susan,

You need to send a scaned copy of this book to me to translate for you.  :)  Orozco's comparison is to show that the double copy of the barring gene lightens the cocks of the same breed.  I didn't see him mention anything about red in his description, just barring.   

The single barred cocks should be pretty easy to distingush from the double barred cocks. 

The barring gene doesn't show up very well on yellow chick down, but if you are getting any of the darker colored chicks (more redish-orange) you can see the white dot on the head from the barring gene.  A single barring gene produces a small spot (all the female will be single barred) and the males produce a very large white spot.  If you see a large white spot on the head you can know from day one it is male.


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#17 2012-08-13 16:19:58

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Re: Pictures of EOs from Orozco's Book

PAGE 176
Top Caption: Cock and Hen of the Euskal-oiloa breed, marradune variety.  Because they are heterozygous for the gene (B) their color is more pronounced than that of a Homozygouse (photo pp. 172) example of the same breed and variety.  The cock has a double barring effect that is more tenuous.
Body Text
It is interesting to point to a work referencing the barred red variety that we have called Marradune:  In origin, the other varieties that are afore mentioned can have some parallels to foreign breeds:  The Lepororri with the New Hampshire, The Zilarra with the Sussex, and the Belta with the Gascona.  Never the less, the Marradune color is the only one unique with the Cantabrian Cover.  It is a color-
Bottom Caption: Cock and Hen of the Euskal-oiloa breed, lepogotti variety.  Compare their dark red color with the marradune variety (photos pp. 172 & 176, abouve).  The effect of the barring, apart from the white lines, lightens the base tones.

Page 177
Top Caption: Hen from the Euskal-oiloa breed, zilarra variety.  The ermine color is produced by the silver gene (S) with the Columbine (Co).
Body Text
That has never been  found in any other part of Europe or North America, nor have we ever seen it an any international exposision.  There is only something similar in the new creation of German breeds like the Niederrheiner and the Bielefelder. Surly because they are German, some Fowl fancier know the origin of the color of their plumage.
  With regard to the other morphological aspects were state: Single Comb (pp), red ear lobes, yellow skin (w); yellow shanks (w Id), even though in the black variety it will be difficult to get this perfect, and dark brown eggs.
Productive Aspects
The flock kept at El Encín, with a total of 400 – 500 birds have only been selected up to now for their morphological aspects to improve type and uniformity according to their color variety.  The selection for improved natural vigor  has also been made being that in the beginning that the original foundation birds came from very few village flocks and inbreeding produced some defects.
Because of the central limitations, we have not been able to get a hold on the selection and improve the productive characteristic, particularity egg production.  Never the less, we have completed studies on the weight of the eggs, the color, and the constitution of the shell. At any rate, for the time that we have had them in our possession and...

Page 173
Body Text - ……….
Bottom Caption: Cock and Hen of the Euskal-oiloa breed, Beltza variety.  Black colored carrying the allele (E)
Page 172
Body Text - ……….
Top Caption:  Cock and Hen of the Euskal-oiloa breed, Marradune variety.  Due to the being homozygous for Barring (B) it is lighter colored than the Heterozygous (pp. 176)
Page 176
Top Caption: Cock and Hen of the Euskal-oiloa breed, Marradune variety.  Due to being heterozygous for Barring (B) it is a more pronounced color that the homozygous (photo pp. 172) chicken of the same breed and variety in which the barring effect is  finer in the cock.

Last edited by Little Boy Blue (2012-08-14 16:14:49)


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#18 2012-08-13 16:35:29

Susan
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Re: Pictures of EOs from Orozco's Book

Awesome! Thank you LBB  I promise I will scan and send you all 18 pages ASAP. I am just really busy right now. Give me a little time :). Thanks so much for doing this!

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