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#1 2012-01-13 14:56:46

poplar girl
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I have opened up a can of marraduna worms on another forum

For those that are members of the WCPS forum (hopefully even if you are not a member this is something you can view as a guest) this is a thread that might interest you:

http://wcps.forumotion.ca/t2820-chick-d … asterclass

I seem to be possessed lately in my desire to understand the color genetics of these chooks! :Crazy: I am not certain how much information I can glean but I felt it was certainly worth a try.


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#2 2012-01-13 16:03:16

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Re: I have opened up a can of marraduna worms on another forum

I saw that!  Your pullets look great, I really like the last pullet.  I have one pullet like her, 2 blondies with yellow legs and 2 that look very close to the marraduna colour but with some grey in the barring, that both have yellow legs too. As far as I remember they were all yellow chicks some a little darker then others and some had a darker yellow/orange spot on the back of their head.


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#3 2012-01-13 16:33:02

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Re: I have opened up a can of marraduna worms on another forum

Cannot see it without being a member so I am not sure what you guys are talking about =D


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#4 2012-01-13 16:51:32

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Re: I have opened up a can of marraduna worms on another forum

I will try to ensure any nuggets of value are brought back to the EO forum then! Or membership on WCPS is free and easy =D


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#5 2012-01-13 18:27:43

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Re: I have opened up a can of marraduna worms on another forum

They are a good group and have some very knowledgeable members.  =D 

I am way behind you PG and still have to wrap my head around these ^ and / and ++s, so little time :Crazy:  I am so glad you are on a mission....then you can teach us! :please:

OK so non-technical version from me, I think bright rich intense even yellow is what we are after, with a pale head dot, not a dark one if I was given a choice.  :wise:  I'll keep better track this year...

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#6 2012-01-13 22:36:24

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Re: I have opened up a can of marraduna worms on another forum

Just zoomed over there and joined up ... all I can say is soak that stuff up, PG, 'cuz it's way beyond me! :oops:

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#7 2012-01-13 22:53:13

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Re: I have opened up a can of marraduna worms on another forum

skeffling lavender farm wrote:

OK so non-technical version from me, I think bright rich intense even yellow is what we are after, with a pale head dot, not a dark one if I was given a choice.  :wise:  I'll keep better track this year...

Gotcha on the intense yellow.... Nooo idea what you mean about the pale head dot. :huh:

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#8 2012-01-13 23:02:38

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Re: I have opened up a can of marraduna worms on another forum

Here's what I mean, in the last pic, "momma looking ratty and proud", Sunny (far right) has it, I think Sonny Jim had a pale one too.  The lemon chick (Drive-by) near the Momma is more dun in color now.  Like white tailed deer coloured.

http://forums.euskaloiloas.com/viewtopic.php?id=165

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#9 2012-01-13 23:17:57

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Re: I have opened up a can of marraduna worms on another forum

Thank you!  Yes, I do see the light dot.

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#10 2012-01-13 23:50:30

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Re: I have opened up a can of marraduna worms on another forum

Ok good! I'm glad I'm not the only one who is not keeping up with PG! I was beginning to worry. :)

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#11 2012-01-14 00:35:18

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Re: I have opened up a can of marraduna worms on another forum

Well some of it is beyond me too but I am slowly starting to make sense of it. I have been reading some of the color genetics threads on BYC and The Coop as well.

Give me some time :surfing:


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#12 2012-01-14 00:36:27

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Re: I have opened up a can of marraduna worms on another forum

Why did we not pick a simple black or white chicken to love? :banginghead:


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#13 2012-01-14 00:42:51

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Re: I have opened up a can of marraduna worms on another forum

No kidding hey??  :P.    Keep on keepin' on PG, you're doing great!

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#14 2012-01-14 01:28:45

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Re: I have opened up a can of marraduna worms on another forum

Susan when you can spare a moment... :please: could you go and look at the color of the down (on the back, a few inches in front of the tail) of some of your marraduna EO Roos with more grey on them. Look at some that are from Claire's line and from BHR line if you have some of both.

Could you tell me if the fluff is white, light grey or grey =D


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#15 2012-01-14 01:40:43

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Re: I have opened up a can of marraduna worms on another forum

Will do! I'll try to do it tomorrow with my daughter and camera in hand.

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#16 2012-01-14 02:26:49

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Re: I have opened up a can of marraduna worms on another forum

I had theories that you guys are finding out seem to be true about chick color. I requested pics of SQ EO chicks from Spain from a user. :whistle:

All of them are bright yellow without the presence of a dot =D


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#17 2012-01-14 05:01:08

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Re: I have opened up a can of marraduna worms on another forum

Aaah maybe the white dot guys are too pale.  Think I had 2 and that one int he pic is a very pale adult, his Mom is pale, my Blondie. 

If you can get permission to post the pics here, I'd love to see them!  And adult SQ EO pics too! :please:

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#18 2012-01-14 12:40:22

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Re: I have opened up a can of marraduna worms on another forum

I have permission :) I only requested chick pics because the user already posted the Adult pics on the BYC thread. I will try and get the chick pics posted tonight. I only got a couple of pics but will be glad to share them.


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#19 2012-01-14 12:46:12

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Re: I have opened up a can of marraduna worms on another forum

Pictures of both show quality chicks and adults would be SO geat Young Heritage! Seems you are one step ahead with your thoughts!

I am worried we won't be able to see quite as much in chick down as for some breeds because wheaten is the base which means yellow chicks. The whiten head spot I am not sure about, that can indicate barring (think cuckoo marans, larger white spot on the head and lighter down =homozygous barred male doesn't it?). Specifically for the cinnamon colored chicks or chicks with grey on their back the down might tell something though. Some of the modifier genes that might make the "blonde" adults are also supposed to lighten the down. Mahogany is said to have no effect on chick down.

With the grey fluff train of thought Susan is checking on I am wondering if we don't have some e^b brown (instead of e^wh) in some of our more grey birds. These would also be the darker chicks with grey on their back so easy to see right away. The e^b/e^wh would have light grey down. Maybe...we'll see.

I seem to have misplaced most of my chick pictures from this spring...I will have to see what I can find.


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#20 2012-01-16 12:37:04

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Re: I have opened up a can of marraduna worms on another forum

http://assets.backyardchickens.com.s3.amazonaws.com/6/61/61556bb1_20111203141110.jpeg
http://assets.backyardchickens.com.s3.amazonaws.com/5/5e/5ec90330_20111202055858.jpeg
http://www.backyardchickens.com/image/id/6073351
http://assets.backyardchickens.com.s3.amazonaws.com/e/eb/eb0f1d7a_20111219202903.jpeg

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#21 2012-01-16 13:08:57

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Re: I have opened up a can of marraduna worms on another forum

So the last two are the kids you took home, what are the first two?!!!

Come on man, spill the beans! :applause:

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#22 2012-01-16 13:18:36

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Re: I have opened up a can of marraduna worms on another forum

All 4 should be pics of Marraduna chicks from Spain.


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#23 2012-01-16 13:19:16

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Re: I have opened up a can of marraduna worms on another forum

So I'd be willing to wager the five chicks in the background of the first pic, the ones that look like they've been dusted with cinnamon, and the one chick up front, are all girls. The other light downed five, not so sure. I have two hens flecked with white that had light down early on.

The third pic, wow they're pretty! I guess 12 to 14 girls in the box...

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#24 2012-01-16 13:20:22

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Re: I have opened up a can of marraduna worms on another forum

:oops: I was thinking they were Skyline chicks.... all bets are off. :oops:

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#25 2012-01-16 13:23:56

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Re: I have opened up a can of marraduna worms on another forum

Maggiesdad wrote:

:oops: I was thinking they were Skyline chicks.... all bets are off. :oops:

I had requested pics of chicks from SQ parent stock from someone in Spain and these were what I received. I will be posting new pics of my chicks from James on my Facebook page today or tomorrow i hope.


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