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#1 2011-10-28 19:39:54

Island Girl
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Air Sack results

Ok they are in the 'bator :P Nothing like a play by play ... :cheer: ... So of the 26 in the 'bator, 4 eggshells are too mottled to see the air sack, hopefully they are at the top of the egg in a nice little circle. 3 of the air sacks are visible but look wonky. They are not completely scrambled but are not a perfect shape either. Not sure if that matters. Can air sacks be OK if they are oblong and a little misshapen? The other 19 look good.

XOX Monika

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#2 2011-10-28 21:12:02

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Re: Air Sack results

Good! I have had egg hatch perfectly well with really wonky air cells, and those that didn't, so I guess I'm not much help. C'mon babies :)

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#3 2011-10-28 23:41:58

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Re: Air Sack results

Are they pointy end down? Have the whole hatch pointy end down, then if the air cell is loose, it floats to the right spot.

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#4 2011-10-29 02:22:36

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Re: Air Sack results

All pointy ends are down =D So if the air cell looks a little odd but is basically at the top end it may still be viable?

XOX Monika

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#5 2011-10-29 04:05:16

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Re: Air Sack results

Yep, and don't lay them on their side after lockdown.  Do lock down day 16 not day 18 to give them the best chance.

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#6 2011-10-29 05:51:56

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Re: Air Sack results

I've gotten into this habit of cutting the bottms off egg cartons and setting the eggs in them with a thin vented plastic grate underneath when I'm close to hatching.. I seem to get more hatches that way. Strange but works for me. They cut a perfect circle and pop out the top. Anybody ever do that?

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#7 2011-10-29 13:04:12

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Re: Air Sack results

Yep, I cut holes in the bottom of the cartons for hatching as well. But not fancy holes like yours Skyline, just holes with a knife. I also cut holes thru the carton where eggs aren't sitting so there is air flow from under the carton to the top of the incubator.  Hatchings eggs upright seems much better to me. I have only lost one where the chick piped the bottom of the egg and didn't make it. I always use the paper cartons too, not the foam.


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#8 2011-10-29 13:25:49

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Re: Air Sack results

That's the way I'm going to lock them down here... keeps the early birds from playing egg soccer with the latecomers.  :applause:

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#9 2011-10-29 16:59:39

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Re: Air Sack results

I can't count how many people I have converted to upright hatching.  I read it once when I had received shipped eggs with scrambled air sacs, and marked the eggs and tried it.  The results were awesome, that's why I wrote the "what to do with shipped eggs article" as it works.  But the more it got talked about in the forum, the more people tried and loved it!

Hatching upright isn't natural, but neither is putting them in the mail for 3 days...:whistle:

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#10 2011-10-29 17:40:06

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Re: Air Sack results

I bought John a Hobabator for his birthday so he could try his hand at hatching. Do you think you could write a post about how to incubator a hatch so us complete novices may stand a chance at a successful hatch. Start from the very beginning regarding choosing eggs to go into the incubator how to stand them etc.
You're so good at explaining things Claire you should have been a teacher :thumbs:

Lynn


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#11 2011-10-29 20:03:30

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Re: Air Sack results

Claire is awesome at explaining things!  I didn't see you wrote that Claire on hatching eggs straight up.  It is a good method.

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#12 2011-10-30 02:28:52

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Re: Air Sack results

Sure I can Lynn.  Great you have a bator!  You will love it :happycrowd", it is magic.   I'll try and do a good writeup tomorrow, my brother in law is up this weekend and I'm not getting any computer time!  I haven't used a hovabator, personally, but I helped Wayne our old hay guy with his, but it didn't have a turner, does yours?  Stefan knows them too, but the egg handling stuff is the same no matter what type you use.

Here's the article I wrote on what to do with shipped eggs to tide you over!
http://www.squidoo.com/mailed-shipped-f … hicken-egg

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#13 2011-10-30 06:47:36

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Re: Air Sack results

Sorry Claire, I didn't see that article.

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#14 2011-10-30 15:52:43

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Re: Air Sack results

Thanks Claire you're the best

Lynn


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#15 2011-10-31 01:39:58

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Re: Air Sack results

Still working on it.....:thumbs:

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#16 2011-11-03 07:35:56

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Re: Air Sack results

Ok new update =D Thought I would do a quick candle before bed, wondering out loud here what the 'normal' people do before they go to bed! :Crazy: Of the 26 eggs in the bator, 17 are definitely fertile :happycrowd" and 9 appear infertile. So that is a possible 15 EOs and 2 tiny purple chickens ;) I didn't quite have the heart to toss/crack open the 9 so I put them in bator #2 just 'in case', I will re-candle them in a few more days! Maybe batch #2 will be here tomorrow! :EO:

XOX Monika

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#17 2011-11-03 11:36:36

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Re: Air Sack results

:thumbsup: I can't wait to see how you do withthis hatch!

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#18 2011-11-03 11:51:58

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Re: Air Sack results

That's awesome Monika! Not bad at all for eggs shipped this time of year.

I think Susan's Bantams are Mille fleurs though...so you might have tiny spotted chickens :)


Raising red cuckoo (marraduna) Euskal Oiloak and self blue (lavender) & black Belgian Bearded d'Uccles.

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#19 2011-11-03 12:29:36

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Re: Air Sack results

I think the spotty ones are awesome too!  :love: I fell in love with Millies watching the Regarding Chickens video by Freds Fine Fowl ...they were the broody hens in the raising chickens section.

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#20 2011-11-03 12:55:29

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Re: Air Sack results

Yup tiny spotted chickens. Its funny, but their specks remind me a lot of some of the eO specks (like Sequin's). 9 infertile hey- hmm that's a lot. Wonder what's going on. I wonder if Sparkle is playing favorites.

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#21 2011-11-03 15:59:27

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Re: Air Sack results

Susan wrote:

Yup tiny spotted chickens. Its funny, but their specks remind me a lot of some of the eO specks (like Sequin's). 9 infertile hey- hmm that's a lot. Wonder what's going on. I wonder if Sparkle is playing favorites.

Yup I knew that! :oops: tiny speckled bundles of love =D I didn't think 9 infertiles for this time of year was too bad, the roos don't really have their spring mojo going.  Is it different for roos than for hens who tend to get more broody come springtime? Gary has just gone to the post office to pick up the second batch of eggs. I called them and asked them to hold them instead of the driver driving around with them all day and maybe handling the box too much, not to mention its cold here! The post office is only 5 minutes away (everything is only 5 minutes away :P). I will let you know what shape they are in.

XOX Monika

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#22 2011-11-03 23:40:27

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Re: Air Sack results

Ah to live 5 minutes from everything...can't imagine!!
Susan is 5 minutes from everything too.
I am about 2 to 2.5 hours from most things and at least 30 minutes from anything!

I think this time of year is probably pretty low for fertility. Do the infertile eggs look like they may have come from a couple of birds in particular IG?


Raising red cuckoo (marraduna) Euskal Oiloak and self blue (lavender) & black Belgian Bearded d'Uccles.

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#23 2011-11-03 23:51:20

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Re: Air Sack results

So... Are they home yet?? :happycrowd"

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#24 2011-11-04 00:02:59

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Re: Air Sack results

poplar girl wrote:

Ah to live 5 minutes from everything...can't imagine!!
Susan is 5 minutes from everything too.
I am about 2 to 2.5 hours from most things and at least 30 minutes from anything!

Count your blessings you don't live in a Geographical Oddity - Two weeks from everywhere! ('O Brother where art thou')

ROFL :happycrowd"

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#25 2011-11-04 02:40:03

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Re: Air Sack results

I bet that 2 weeks from anywhere is beautiful!  :thumbsup:

We are 10-15 minutes to the nearest variety store/post office/take out town, 20-40 min (depending on time of year) to nearest Walmart/Zellers/Home depot town, and 2 hours to nearest Homesense/Winners/Princess Auto town.  Could be worse.

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