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#1 2012-06-25 22:05:35

WorthItFarms
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From: Atlanta, GA
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How to Get Zilarra?

I'm still very new to chicken genetics. How do I take this rooster and get Zilarra? I know he's already on his way.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d172/INOCNTKITN187/Euskal%20Oiloa%20Chickens/IMGA0038.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d172/INOCNTKITN187/Euskal%20Oiloa%20Chickens/IMGA0029.jpg


Located in Chattahoochee Hills, GA. http://worthitfarms.com

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#2 2012-06-26 00:25:45

Susan
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From: Saskatoon, Sask, Canada
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Re: How to Get Zilarra?

He looks like a great start! I would breed to  Gorria because  you don't want the barring on the body but still want the Columbian pattern. It will take time, but is possible!  I gave up my Zillara Roos so I am glad to know someone will be working on this project!

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#3 2013-01-22 16:48:45

WorthItFarms
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Re: How to Get Zilarra?

At the time of the previous posting I was thrilled to have my "White Knight" but our stand-in "LGD" found it too much fun to resist playing with him and ended up killing him. I have only "Thunder Thighs" left out of that original batch. He's a typically patterned EO with light tan/red coloring and white legs. I have one of his cockerels with slightly darker red coloring and yellow legs that I'm considering replacing him with. However, I am succeeding in lightening the red coloring, not disposing of the extra black markings. Should I breed the cockerel to a solid white pullet (half sister)? I know the breed carries the Columbian restrictor, so I'm assuming she has it under there. Will this match pull out the black in the body?


Located in Chattahoochee Hills, GA. http://worthitfarms.com

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#4 2013-01-22 20:08:59

Micah and Kiah
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From: West Grey
Registered: 2012-04-20
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Re: How to Get Zilarra?

I don't know the answer to your question but I am sorry for your loss.  He was lovely and well on his way!


All the best,

Kiah and Micah

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#5 2013-01-22 21:22:29

skeffling lavender farm
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From: Wiarton, ON, Canada
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Re: How to Get Zilarra?

Sorry about your dude, he was  a handsome big fella, i am hoping poplar girl can answer this for you :whistle:  Sounds like everyone is setting up their breeding pens. :snowman:

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#6 2013-01-23 01:57:06

poplar girl
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From: Athabasca, AB, Canada
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Re: How to Get Zilarra?

Breeding to a recessive white hen won't really help you with the zilarria. The recessive white is covering everything up but any chicks will either be white or colored but not necessarily any closer to Zilarra than your birds are now.

I am really not sure what will work. You need to replace the gold with silver and get rid of the barring. The black in the body you will need to reduce over time by selecting against it.  To the best of my knowlege there are no gorria in the US to use to get ride of the barring (as Susan suggested) so outcrossing to another breed and then many generations of backcross to EOs with selection for the traits you want might be the only way. Although I have seen a few roosters like yours I have yet to see any hens with the right color so really makes me wonder what exactly the alleles at work are.


Raising red cuckoo (marraduna) Euskal Oiloak and self blue (lavender) & black Belgian Bearded d'Uccles.

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#7 2013-01-25 12:59:51

Maggiesdad
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From: Louisa County, Virginia
Registered: 2011-10-05
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Re: How to Get Zilarra?

What I know about genetics will fit into the dot at the end of this sentence.

That said, I just read a post on BYC that may be of interest to you, WIF, it's #10570 on BYC thread http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/40034 … t_10339895

My inner Sherlock tells me if you consider the Basque Hen as a whole - Black, White, Red, Barred Red and Naked neck, and consider the region, time frame of development, etc, that it wouldn't be a stretch to look towards the Light Sussex for your answers in how the Zilarra is put together.

Basically a Light Sussex coloration on a Basque Hen type. Just something to think about.

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#8 2013-01-25 13:48:55

poplar girl
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Re: How to Get Zilarra?

I agree MD, same alleles with barring and a few other complications added to the mix.


Raising red cuckoo (marraduna) Euskal Oiloak and self blue (lavender) & black Belgian Bearded d'Uccles.

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#9 2013-08-19 03:29:14

WorthItFarms
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From: Atlanta, GA
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Re: How to Get Zilarra?

Here's our new rooster with a few of our hens:
http://worthitfarms.jigsy.com/files/resized/138435/930;624;7a925dfbb78c79772b6fed16bfae6e2956147db8.jpg

Should I focus on selecting the lightest hens from this bunch or get some Gorrias and try to take out the barring?


Located in Chattahoochee Hills, GA. http://worthitfarms.com

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#10 2013-08-19 11:25:11

poplar girl
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From: Athabasca, AB, Canada
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Re: How to Get Zilarra?

I hope that Little Boy Blue sees this post and provides some advice worthItFarms.

My own understanding is you need to replace the gold allele with silver, i think that will be the most challenging. Getting of the barring is pretty simple although maybe no so easy where you are if there are no gorria in the USA. Have you throught of what breed you will outcross to?

I will say your birds are nice looking, i like their type and the color is pretty close to correct for marraduna.


Raising red cuckoo (marraduna) Euskal Oiloak and self blue (lavender) & black Belgian Bearded d'Uccles.

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